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	<title>Comments on: The Webcomic Overlook #107: The Dreamland Chronicles</title>
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		<title>By: Webcomic creators doin&#8217; it online &#171; The Webcomic Overlook</title>
		<link>http://webcomicoverlook.com/2010/02/08/the-webcomic-overlook-107-the-dreamland-chronicles/#comment-4134</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Webcomic creators doin&#8217; it online &#171; The Webcomic Overlook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Haunted, The Dreamland Chronicles Scott Sava, creator of The Dreamland Chronicles (which I reviewed not too long ago) got a fairly lengthy interview in The Tennessean. The article points out one of the advantages of [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Haunted, The Dreamland Chronicles Scott Sava, creator of The Dreamland Chronicles (which I reviewed not too long ago) got a fairly lengthy interview in The Tennessean. The article points out one of the advantages of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: alexds1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alexds1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 03:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll admit that I haven&#039;t read all of this comic, but the art impresses the living heck out of me. Yes there are a few issues with proportion and plasticity (in my opinion it was relatively minor) but the lighting is truly insane. And the object detail! And I keep coming back to check out the expressions, I really had no idea that non-professionally produced CG art could achieve results like those.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll admit that I haven&#8217;t read all of this comic, but the art impresses the living heck out of me. Yes there are a few issues with proportion and plasticity (in my opinion it was relatively minor) but the lighting is truly insane. And the object detail! And I keep coming back to check out the expressions, I really had no idea that non-professionally produced CG art could achieve results like those.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Nihilist is for the children &#171; The Webcomic Overlook</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] is why I enjoyed The Dreamland Chronicles (reviewed here) and thought it would be great for kids. This is a webcomic that remembers that kids love [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Grey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you&#039;ve hit one of the main visual problems with CG comics here, one I forgot to mention. When a comic is drawn the lines are part of the drawing, the lines of the speech bubbles and of the text itself blend in, they become a part of it. No one had found a way of keeping the speech bubbles from standing out against the images in CG yet, as far as I know. 
Dreamland comes close by making the borders a thin coloured line, which greatly helps in blending it in to  the image. It&#039;s still far from a perfect solution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;ve hit one of the main visual problems with CG comics here, one I forgot to mention. When a comic is drawn the lines are part of the drawing, the lines of the speech bubbles and of the text itself blend in, they become a part of it. No one had found a way of keeping the speech bubbles from standing out against the images in CG yet, as far as I know.<br />
Dreamland comes close by making the borders a thin coloured line, which greatly helps in blending it in to  the image. It&#8217;s still far from a perfect solution.</p>
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		<title>By: kat</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The characters have very few emotions at all, I think they might even be preset, which is bad.&lt;/i&gt;

It is possible to use preset emotions on your characters; as per the usual with CG presets, though, it&#039;s also almost always a mistake. However I don&#039;t think the problem is with variation. I can&#039;t speak for custom models like those in Dreamland Chronicle, but even the stock models like those I use have 50 or more morph dials for expression, all of which can be used in conjunction and at strengths varying from about -50% to 100%. 

The trouble as I would identify it is with subtlety. Cartoons and comics tend to use somewhat exaggerated expressions and poses to get their point across, which is good, but CG models are meant for realism; if you try to exaggerate the expressions or features you end up with something awful-looking. If you don&#039;t, the characters look unexpressive and blank. It&#039;s possible to hit the happy medium, but not in every panel or every time.

I&#039;d also disagree with you a bit on backgrounds. You don&#039;t *have* to scan/draw/model every little thing (in fact you can get by with no modelling talent at all, as I do): the CG community is very generous, and with a bit of digging one can generally find freebie models of all kinds of things. It&#039;s one of the few advantages of CG.

I agree generally, though -- CG isn&#039;t, and will probably never be, a match for hand-drawn comics. Useful for some of us, yes, but that&#039;s about the best that can be said. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The characters have very few emotions at all, I think they might even be preset, which is bad.</i></p>
<p>It is possible to use preset emotions on your characters; as per the usual with CG presets, though, it&#8217;s also almost always a mistake. However I don&#8217;t think the problem is with variation. I can&#8217;t speak for custom models like those in Dreamland Chronicle, but even the stock models like those I use have 50 or more morph dials for expression, all of which can be used in conjunction and at strengths varying from about -50% to 100%. </p>
<p>The trouble as I would identify it is with subtlety. Cartoons and comics tend to use somewhat exaggerated expressions and poses to get their point across, which is good, but CG models are meant for realism; if you try to exaggerate the expressions or features you end up with something awful-looking. If you don&#8217;t, the characters look unexpressive and blank. It&#8217;s possible to hit the happy medium, but not in every panel or every time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also disagree with you a bit on backgrounds. You don&#8217;t *have* to scan/draw/model every little thing (in fact you can get by with no modelling talent at all, as I do): the CG community is very generous, and with a bit of digging one can generally find freebie models of all kinds of things. It&#8217;s one of the few advantages of CG.</p>
<p>I agree generally, though &#8212; CG isn&#8217;t, and will probably never be, a match for hand-drawn comics. Useful for some of us, yes, but that&#8217;s about the best that can be said. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: TekServer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TekServer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t be too hard on him, Scott.  He probably hadn&#039;t had his coffee yet ...

;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t be too hard on him, Scott.  He probably hadn&#8217;t had his coffee yet &#8230;<br />
 <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, brainwave! I wonder if having more sound effects would make the speech bubbles seem more natural; it seems like 3d comics and fumettti don&#039;t have sound effects so much. Maybe the speech bubbles would feel more natural if they had more company.

Motion lines might work for that too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, brainwave! I wonder if having more sound effects would make the speech bubbles seem more natural; it seems like 3d comics and fumettti don&#8217;t have sound effects so much. Maybe the speech bubbles would feel more natural if they had more company.</p>
<p>Motion lines might work for that too.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m surprised you didn&#039;t mention the speech bubbles.

Maybe it&#039;s just me, but I have a lot of trouble when the speech bubbles clearly have no relationship whatsoever to the art. These Dreamland chronicles pages are like you&#039;re looking at a museum diorama and somebody pasted speech bubble stickers on the glass display case. I don&#039;t really &quot;hear&quot; them as an integral part of the world the way I do with speech bubbles in drawn comics.

Also, a lot of times the mouths look weird.

&lt;I&gt;I have never read Little Nemo, and I probably wouldn’t have heard of it if not for the NES game of the same name,&lt;/I&gt;

Dude, what the hell. Get out there and read it, man! A comics critic saying that is like a film critic saying &quot;I probably wouldn&#039;t have heard about Orson Welles if not for the Transformers movie&quot;.

I hope that doesn&#039;t sound harsher then I mean it; I&#039;m sick and medicated, I can&#039;t judge that. But seriously, Winsor McKay is one of history&#039;s great cartoonists. As a comics fan/critic you owe it to yourself to get to know him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised you didn&#8217;t mention the speech bubbles.</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s just me, but I have a lot of trouble when the speech bubbles clearly have no relationship whatsoever to the art. These Dreamland chronicles pages are like you&#8217;re looking at a museum diorama and somebody pasted speech bubble stickers on the glass display case. I don&#8217;t really &#8220;hear&#8221; them as an integral part of the world the way I do with speech bubbles in drawn comics.</p>
<p>Also, a lot of times the mouths look weird.</p>
<p><i>I have never read Little Nemo, and I probably wouldn’t have heard of it if not for the NES game of the same name,</i></p>
<p>Dude, what the hell. Get out there and read it, man! A comics critic saying that is like a film critic saying &#8220;I probably wouldn&#8217;t have heard about Orson Welles if not for the Transformers movie&#8221;.</p>
<p>I hope that doesn&#8217;t sound harsher then I mean it; I&#8217;m sick and medicated, I can&#8217;t judge that. But seriously, Winsor McKay is one of history&#8217;s great cartoonists. As a comics fan/critic you owe it to yourself to get to know him.</p>
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		<title>By: Ehol</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ehol]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Rich about the story. I am way in my forty&#039;s but I loved the story. It&#039;s simple, funny, touching and has that extra wow touch that reminds me of my childhood awesomeness about some old favourites (as El Santo wrote in the review, too).

Maybe I was helped by the fact that I read the first 14 chapters in a whole (&#039;cause I discovered this webcomic only circa a month ago ... hey, in Italy we don&#039;t have much of a cover of international webcomics, ok ?), or maybe because I am a huge fan of fantasy stories (that, after all, are always a bit naive, aren&#039;t they ? Heroes never fail ... it&#039;s not how reality works ...).

Anyway, I found that the most appealing factor of this webcomic (remember that I am quite restricted in my views, since I don&#039;t know and I don&#039;t have time to read webcomics in general) is the author himself! Scott is a very kind person and a very appreciative one. As Rich says, he always considers reader&#039;s opinion the most and he is always in search of suggestions and betterments. He is really an artist from that point of view.

Ok, now I&#039;m stopping or someone could think I am paid by him to be such a fan :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Rich about the story. I am way in my forty&#8217;s but I loved the story. It&#8217;s simple, funny, touching and has that extra wow touch that reminds me of my childhood awesomeness about some old favourites (as El Santo wrote in the review, too).</p>
<p>Maybe I was helped by the fact that I read the first 14 chapters in a whole (&#8217;cause I discovered this webcomic only circa a month ago &#8230; hey, in Italy we don&#8217;t have much of a cover of international webcomics, ok ?), or maybe because I am a huge fan of fantasy stories (that, after all, are always a bit naive, aren&#8217;t they ? Heroes never fail &#8230; it&#8217;s not how reality works &#8230;).</p>
<p>Anyway, I found that the most appealing factor of this webcomic (remember that I am quite restricted in my views, since I don&#8217;t know and I don&#8217;t have time to read webcomics in general) is the author himself! Scott is a very kind person and a very appreciative one. As Rich says, he always considers reader&#8217;s opinion the most and he is always in search of suggestions and betterments. He is really an artist from that point of view.</p>
<p>Ok, now I&#8217;m stopping or someone could think I am paid by him to be such a fan <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: The Dreamland Chronicles - Page 1024&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 06:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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