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		<title>By: Strip News 8-28-9 &#124; Strip News &#124; ArtPatient.com &#124; ArtPatient.com</title>
		<link>http://webcomicoverlook.com/2009/08/19/captain-nihilist-is-both-a-contrarian-and-a-conformist/#comment-2941</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Strip News 8-28-9 &#124; Strip News &#124; ArtPatient.com &#124; ArtPatient.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Overlook is conformingly contrarian, if I read this right. Really, I&#8217;m not keen on critics &#8211; whose whole gig is about tearing creative works [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Overlook is conformingly contrarian, if I read this right. Really, I&#8217;m not keen on critics &#8211; whose whole gig is about tearing creative works [...]</p>
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		<title>By: William George</title>
		<link>http://webcomicoverlook.com/2009/08/19/captain-nihilist-is-both-a-contrarian-and-a-conformist/#comment-2903</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William George]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Troll&quot;, like the word &quot;Nazi&quot;, has lost all meaning due to repeated improper use. Neither are a shorthand version of, &quot;Person I strongly disagree with&quot;.

Being such a smart guy, I&#039;m assuming Ebert used the term in order to show that he&#039;s hep to the kids and their &quot;Lull Speak&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Troll&#8221;, like the word &#8220;Nazi&#8221;, has lost all meaning due to repeated improper use. Neither are a shorthand version of, &#8220;Person I strongly disagree with&#8221;.</p>
<p>Being such a smart guy, I&#8217;m assuming Ebert used the term in order to show that he&#8217;s hep to the kids and their &#8220;Lull Speak&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: El Santo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[El Santo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[True, Armond White&#039;s selections are bizarre... and may, in fact, be a troll.  Still, I have my reasons why I don&#039;t think Ebert was right in calling him out after he defended him.

1.) He based his assumptions after someone sent him a list of which movie White said was good and White said was bad.  Ebert&#039;s conclusion seems to have been based on that list alone.  This shouldn&#039;t be basis enough for a conclusion, since, in the past, Ebert has mentioned that a rating system is not an adequate reflection of one&#039;s opinion, which is, instead, contained in the text of the review.  The list that was posted is basically a rating system, one that only says whether something is either good or bad (similar to the Rotten Tomatoes, which avoids any nuance).

2.) Ebert mentions how White is a troll for liking Transformers 2 but hating Synecdoche, NY.  This strikes me as odd, not because I disagree, necessarily.  But would it be so difficult to run into a person who had the same opinion?  As awful as the Transformers movie may be (and I&#039;m in the &quot;TF2 is a C+ movie&quot; camp myself), the exit polls show that movie goers had an overwhelmingly positive experience.  Thus, I&#039;m not willing to write off White&#039;s opinion on the movie just yet.  As for rating it better than &quot;Synecdoche, NY&quot;: perhaps it&#039;s possible that White just wasn&#039;t won over by the story of a neurotic theater director from Upstate New York?  That description alone would drive away most movie goes from even bothering with the movie.  I think it&#039;s a bigger possibility that White has different standards on what movies he likes.  I think he&#039;s wrong in thinking that Michael Bay creates great art, but that&#039;s not necessarily a unique opinion as other critics.  The Cahiers du Cinema have basically said the same thing for decades (and do, in fact, champion Micahel Bay).

I do agree, though, that White does go on some ridiculous tangents in his review.  I find it too hard to fault him for that, though, since I&#039;d have to call myself out. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, Armond White&#8217;s selections are bizarre&#8230; and may, in fact, be a troll.  Still, I have my reasons why I don&#8217;t think Ebert was right in calling him out after he defended him.</p>
<p>1.) He based his assumptions after someone sent him a list of which movie White said was good and White said was bad.  Ebert&#8217;s conclusion seems to have been based on that list alone.  This shouldn&#8217;t be basis enough for a conclusion, since, in the past, Ebert has mentioned that a rating system is not an adequate reflection of one&#8217;s opinion, which is, instead, contained in the text of the review.  The list that was posted is basically a rating system, one that only says whether something is either good or bad (similar to the Rotten Tomatoes, which avoids any nuance).</p>
<p>2.) Ebert mentions how White is a troll for liking Transformers 2 but hating Synecdoche, NY.  This strikes me as odd, not because I disagree, necessarily.  But would it be so difficult to run into a person who had the same opinion?  As awful as the Transformers movie may be (and I&#8217;m in the &#8220;TF2 is a C+ movie&#8221; camp myself), the exit polls show that movie goers had an overwhelmingly positive experience.  Thus, I&#8217;m not willing to write off White&#8217;s opinion on the movie just yet.  As for rating it better than &#8220;Synecdoche, NY&#8221;: perhaps it&#8217;s possible that White just wasn&#8217;t won over by the story of a neurotic theater director from Upstate New York?  That description alone would drive away most movie goes from even bothering with the movie.  I think it&#8217;s a bigger possibility that White has different standards on what movies he likes.  I think he&#8217;s wrong in thinking that Michael Bay creates great art, but that&#8217;s not necessarily a unique opinion as other critics.  The Cahiers du Cinema have basically said the same thing for decades (and do, in fact, champion Micahel Bay).</p>
<p>I do agree, though, that White does go on some ridiculous tangents in his review.  I find it too hard to fault him for that, though, since I&#8217;d have to call myself out. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://webcomicoverlook.com/2009/08/19/captain-nihilist-is-both-a-contrarian-and-a-conformist/#comment-2828</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To be fair to Ebert, he did explicitly say that his defense of White&#039;s &lt;I&gt;District 9&lt;/I&gt; review still stands, and he&#039;s just retracting his overall defense of White as a fairly average critic.

I mean, honestly, it&#039;s hard not to at least &lt;I&gt;wonder&lt;/I&gt; if Mr. White is just fucking with us. I think Ebert&#039;s right that the people who call him a troll can make a legitimate case for it.

It&#039;s not like Ebert just dismissed White&#039;s arguments for ad hominem reasons, which you kind of imply here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair to Ebert, he did explicitly say that his defense of White&#8217;s <i>District 9</i> review still stands, and he&#8217;s just retracting his overall defense of White as a fairly average critic.</p>
<p>I mean, honestly, it&#8217;s hard not to at least <i>wonder</i> if Mr. White is just fucking with us. I think Ebert&#8217;s right that the people who call him a troll can make a legitimate case for it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not like Ebert just dismissed White&#8217;s arguments for ad hominem reasons, which you kind of imply here.</p>
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		<title>By: William George</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William George]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The value of a critic is completely dependent upon him agreeing with you or not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The value of a critic is completely dependent upon him agreeing with you or not.</p>
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