PW Beat: Webcomics among top stories of 2008, part deux

This is Part II if Heidi McDonald’s Annual Year End Survey, conducted with various comics personalities. This time around, webcomics were front and center, with insightful comments coming from highly notable cartoonist Colleen Doran and publisher Charles Kochman. I’ve posted the webcomic-related content below… though reading the original, as a whole, is well worth your time. I was especially intrigued about Mark Verheiden’s observation how The Dark Knight was the biggest blockbuster of 2008., yet comic sales continue to fall.

Hope Larson, cartoonist

What will be the biggest story in comics in 2009? Comics & the Internet, especially now that we’re in a recession and book publishers are less interested in acquiring graphic novels.

Colleen Doran, cartoonist

2009 Projects: Stealth Tribes for Vertigo with Warren Ellis. This has been going on for some time, but we are literally within weeks of completion now. Also, I recently signed on to do an original GN for Vertigo with Derek McCulloch, the wonderful writer with whom I worked on the Tori Amos: Comic Book Tattoo project. It is being edited by Joan Hilty, who was a wonderful editor with whom I previously worked on Reign of the Zodiac for DC with Keith Giffen.

I’m pulling A Distant Soil out of hiatus as well, to start as a webcomic, and to march to completion in print with Image Comics. There are also couple of other things I can’t discuss right now.

What will be the biggest story in comics in 2009? Again, the economy. The direct market was created as a response to the financial collapse of the 1970’s. The direct market was a new market, so the direct market was all about growth. And when we hear about how comics are immune to recession, that ignores the direct market and how it came into being.

I remember the market correction of the mid-1980’s, when comic companies were branching out onto the newsstands, and some of the publishers not being entirely familiar with the trauma that book returns can bring. I think we’re in for another big round of that. We’re already in the middle of it, actually.

As for webcomics, that arena has huge room for expansion, but who is going to pay for those webcomics is the question. These comics are supported by advertising dollars and product sold to consumers with disposable income. With less disposable income, there’s less cause to buy a mug with a cartoon on it. Advertisers are cutting back.

It remains to be seen if some of the people who are supporting themselves with webcomics will be able to continue. It’s one thing to have an inventory of work that can be put onto the web as supplemental income. It’s quite another to have to produce new work regularly to keep the hit counter up. I bet a lot of people are going to have to cut back. I’m going web with my work because it’s supplemental income, and I don’t have to be self supporting with it, but I will be very interested to see how the numbers add up over the next several months. I really don’t know what to expect.

If anything, the new webcomics market illustrates the importance of owning the rights to your own work. This is a very inexpensive way to publish. If you have inventory, and can web publish a number of works at low cost, even if you aren’t bringing in big bucks per book, you can raise some dough. Whether or not you will want to continue to self publish if the work doesn’t eventually pay for the effort put into it is another matter entirely. But the days when you were likely to lose tens of thousands of dollars self publishing are no more. You just don’t need to take the risk of printing comics and carrying inventory if you don’t want to. if your work goes critical mass and you can take it to print, great. If not, that’s too bad, but at least you can still show your work to people, and the publishing act needn’t put you in the poorhouse.

Charles Kochman, publisher

What was the biggest story in comics in 2008? Webcomics. Just because a comic is posted online does not mean it will sell when collected and printed with ink on paper between hard or soft covers, but the Web has allowed for a preponderance of artists and writers of all ages to express themselves and get their work out in front of people who have never, or will never, step foot in a comic book store. The variety of subject matter and art styles and storytelling that we began to see in 2008 is incredibly exciting. Although I have been lucky to publish Mom’s Cancer and Diary of a Wimpy Kid, both of which started out as Webcomics, and have signed up Jason Shiga’s Meanwhile and Barry Deutsch‘s Hereville, I am looking forward to the day when a Webcomic remains a Webcomic and not a vehicle to attract a mainstream publisher to “validate” its existence with print publication. There are many great Webcomics out there, but so far none have achieved that Sgt. Pepper moment of using the unlimited resources of the internet to tell their story in a way that print never could. Josh Neufeld’s A.D.: New Orleans After the Deluge comes the closest, but still lacks the unlimited links to YouTube videos and Wikipedia entries and AP stories to support and constantly update the story with backup and enhanced reading experiences, much like a re-mastered Criterion version of a great movie—only moreso. If these still early days of the Internet are analogous to television, then we have moved on from the Howdy Doody and Twilight Zone Webcomics of Compuserve and Quantum Link, and are currently reading online the equivalent of All in the Family, Happy Days, and The Six Million Dollar Man. In 2009 and beyond, we still have the Webcomic equivalents of cable TV, Homicide: Life on the Streets, The West Wing, and Seinfeld to look forward to.

Caleb Monroe, writer


What was the biggest story in comics in 2008?
Taken all together, I think it was Marvel’s digital subscriptions, Zuda, FreakAngels and Dark Horse’s success with book editions of webcomics (most notably Achewood and Perry Bible Fellowship), because…

What will be the biggest story in comics in 2009? I predict in the coming year we’re going to see the first struggling midlist books with devoted followings (the likes of Amazing Spider-Girl, Manhunter, Blue Beetle) that get moved to a digital-to-trade model rather than cancelled altogether. Especially because the impending price-hike will probably hit the midlist the hardest, and may be confined to the monthly mags, meaning trades will be an even better relative bang-for-buck value. For that matter, so will Marvel’s digital subscriptions…



Dean Haspiel, cartoonist

The biggest story in 2009 will be when webcomix start to officially impact print sales as readers assimilate to the various digital formats available in both free and subscriber mode while saving precious trees for quality story collections rather than event comics floppy slaughter. Also, whispers of a new, American imprint that will be equal parts L’Association and 2000AD by way of RAW when a posse of webcomix creators take full control of their careers in the spirit of Will Eisner and launch new franchise fair for the masses.

Ross Richie, co-founder of BOOM! Studios

What will be the biggest story in comics in 2009? How the North American economy shapes retail stores and the publishers who feed them product. How will “Big Event Comics” sustain the top tier and the midlist for the Big Two. And how will print comics continue to work out its relationship with webcomics?

Brian Heater, journalist

What will be the biggest story in comics in 2009?
Why, the depression, of course! That’s the easy answer, right? So let’s go with a less obvious one. My prediction: the iPhone becomes the first great e-comics reader. The screen is small compared to the Kindle, sure, but the colors are brilliant and multi-touch makes for a fantastic comic reading experience. Hopefully the next iteration of the Kindle will be more comic book friendly, but let’s call the iPhone a proof of concept that sequential art can work in e-book format. Format a Webcomic to the device and you’ll be comics’ next billionaire.

PW Beat: Webcomics among top stories of 2008

Heidi MacDonald’s PW Beat, one of the best comic resources on the net, asked several creators what the biggest story of 2008 was, and what stories will be big in 2009. Unsurprisingly, digital comics came up numerous times. Here’s a sampling:

Peggy Burns, Associate publisher, Drawn and Quarterly

What will be the biggest story in comics in 2009? What Marvel does with the $10 million they’ve put aside for digital. Mind you, they’re already doing paid download in Europe with cellphones as the platform. While Marvel’s officially expecting to reap the rewards in 2010, by Q4 we have a chance of seeing 1) expansion of the digital subscription program, 2) shorter waits from print to digital, 3) some form of paid, single-issue downloads. If the downloads are in Europe, you can consider it in field-testing for the U.S.

Jeff Parker, writer, artist

What was the biggest story in comics in 2008? That one of the big companies (Marvel) started getting serious about providing online content. When we’re all one day buying serials cheap in digital form to read on some flexible interface and later getting the collections as real books, this is where it started. Looking at last year’s prediction, I see that I started to talk about this and then switched to the more exciting “tragedy at Comicon” prognostication. I was almost right for once! Well, by my own measure.

Shaenon K. Garrity, cartoonist, editor

What was the biggest story in comics in 2008? Webcomics seemed to come into their own as a legitimate business model, although I’m not sure if they actually became a legitimate business model, or if the rest of the comics industry is so confused and floundering that flinging crap at the Internet and hoping something sticks makes as much sense as anything else.

Other items mentioned when asked about the “Biggest Story In Comics In 2008″ included cross-over fatigue, the box-office dominance of incredibly well-done superhero movies, and general snarkiness that you can sort of expect from these comic types. (A ha ha ha! Just kidding! Please do not kill me, Jim Starlin.)

This is also just Part I of the article. Will other print media veterans chime in on webcomics? Stay tuned.

Who Are You?: An Interview With Albone (Alan Evans)

whoareyouAlan Evans, known as Albone on his site, writes a comic with what I consider one of the most unconventional premises in webcomics today: Rival Angels. How unconventional? In his review, Ambush Bug of AICN said, “One of the coolest things about comics is that they can be about just about anything, especially webcomics, which don’t have to deal with uptight execs thinking about trends and expectations in the marketplace. In this medium, the artist/writer doesn’t have to worry about all that and can just tell the tale he wants to. Here’s such a concept: female professional wrestlers.”

In particular, Rival Angels follows the struggles of the high-flying blonde-haired, starry-eyed hero, “Ultra-girl” Sabrina Mancini, as she tries to prove her skills in the ring while navigating murkier political waters backstage. What follows is a lot of brawls, a lot of backstabbing, and a lot of redemption.

I relished a chance to do an interview with Alan Evans. Partially to talk shop, but mainly to chat about a shared passion for the warriors of the squared circle.

Alan Evans (right) and women's wrestler Gail Kim.

Alan Evans (right) and women's wrestler Gail Kim.

An Interview With Albone (Alan Evans)

WCO: Wrestling comics do not have a good track record among comics in general. A couple, like the Kevin Nash and Ultimate Warrior comics, have been inducted into Wrestlecrap.com. What do you think these comics did wrong? How do you hope to sidestep their errors in Rival Angels?

Albone: In every instance, including the Undertaker and Kane comics, they strayed away from wrestling. It’s like having Jeff Gordon in a space thriller with space race cars to get around while they’re meeting new life forms. Lex Lugar trying to blow up a boat with Sting on it, showed up in WCW’s comic. Really?! Wrestling will always be the milieu of Rival Angels. Sure, the girls might do things that aren’t wrestlerly at home, or out on the town, but they’ll always be wrestlers in a wrestling federation and I think that’s why it will succeed where those others have failed.

WCO: In your comic, wrestling is presented as a total shoot. It’s more like an MMA match, what with the outcome not being predetermined and the characters taking their rivalries off-camera. Any reason you decided to go this route?

Albone: It felt more entertaining to make the ring action real. For the most part, wrestling in our lifetime has been scripted so this is a way to present a fresh take on pro wrestling, while taking a cue from the rising popularity of MMA. From a character point of view I think it makes them more interesting and I think readers outside of pro wrestling will appreciate that realism.

WCO: In the Rival Angels universe, why would anyone, like the Hell’s Belles, decide to go heel (bad guy)?

Albone: Heel’s are usually revealed through their actions. Normally, they don’t pick to be a heel, their ring work dictates it. For instance, the Hell’s Belles didn’t decide to be heels (they usually think they’re right), actions like bashing fan favorites in the head with a chair chooses that. However, many wrestlers do promote their heel-ness. There’s a certain freedom to it that allows them to break the rules and get away with it (most of the time). There are a few wrestlers that are just natural jerks though and play it up for the negative attention it gives them.

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WCO: Women’s wrestling is big time in other countries… Japan and Bolivia come to mind. But in the US, it’s usually takes a backseat eye-candy role to the men’s wrestling. In fact, ignoring a brief resurgence in TNA Wrestling (when Gail Kim was anchoring the division) and minor federations like Shimmer, it’s practically non-existent. So why do a comic about female wrestlers?

Albone: You hit the nail on the head with the current state of women’s wrestling in America. Because women’s wrestler is so neglected here, it seemed to be the more interesting road to take. Men’s wrestling is huge, so it’s pretty easy for one to find it. Women’s wrestling is a little harder to find and so, a bigger canvas for me to work with, so to speak. The creative freedom using women over men makes it that much more appealing.
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The 2008 Weblog Award Finalists!

Happy 2009! As we ring in the new year, here’s a friendly reminder of the 2008 Weblog Awards. Finalists have been announced, and the voting commences in two days. Here are your nominees for Best Comic Strip:

I’m not a huge fan of any of those (I’m fond of Medium Large, but not a HUGE fan), but my money is on either Dilbert or xkcd, again.

Also, friend of The Webcomic Overlook The Comics Curmudgeon is in the running for the highly competitive category of Best Humor Blog.

More information can be found on the Weblog Awards site.

UPDATE: Voting is open NOW! Cast your vote here. As of this posting, the leading candidate is Garfield MINUS Garfield.