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	<title>Comments on: The Webcomic Overlook #52: Erfworld</title>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://webcomicoverlook.com/2008/08/20/the-webcomic-overlook-52-erfworld/#comment-5469</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 07:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just read the archives.

Despite all the myriad rules, the world itself lacks for real depth. It feels arbitrary in almost every respect because its mythology hasn&#039;t been fleshed out nearly enough to justify viewing it as a standalone fantasy milieu, but neither has it successfully developed the idea that it&#039;s all in his head. The most interesting part of the narrative lies in its relation to Parson, the series&#039; protagonist and its only real three-dimensional character. Wanda might amuse, and Sizemore might attract sympathy, but they&#039;re ultimately static types playing out their one-line RPG bios. The suggestion that SPOILER Sizemore is incapacitated in a hospital, and Erfworld is his subconscious comes relatively early. Then it&#039;s gone. It&#039;s a shame. The comic seems content to traffic in an amusing but mundane play-by-play of turn-based warfare when it could be tapping into its most potent ingredients--Parson and his interior narrative. But he&#039;s getting less and less page space in favor of an eye-rolling bisexual soap drama and cardboard politics. 

By digging into that human element and giving Erfworld a more concrete emotional meaning, the authors could open access more to general readers, whereas right now a lot of its enjoyment seems limited to a specific &#039;in&#039; crowd. 

Hey, Erfworld, you really want to make it wacky? Make it real.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just read the archives.</p>
<p>Despite all the myriad rules, the world itself lacks for real depth. It feels arbitrary in almost every respect because its mythology hasn&#8217;t been fleshed out nearly enough to justify viewing it as a standalone fantasy milieu, but neither has it successfully developed the idea that it&#8217;s all in his head. The most interesting part of the narrative lies in its relation to Parson, the series&#8217; protagonist and its only real three-dimensional character. Wanda might amuse, and Sizemore might attract sympathy, but they&#8217;re ultimately static types playing out their one-line RPG bios. The suggestion that SPOILER Sizemore is incapacitated in a hospital, and Erfworld is his subconscious comes relatively early. Then it&#8217;s gone. It&#8217;s a shame. The comic seems content to traffic in an amusing but mundane play-by-play of turn-based warfare when it could be tapping into its most potent ingredients&#8211;Parson and his interior narrative. But he&#8217;s getting less and less page space in favor of an eye-rolling bisexual soap drama and cardboard politics. </p>
<p>By digging into that human element and giving Erfworld a more concrete emotional meaning, the authors could open access more to general readers, whereas right now a lot of its enjoyment seems limited to a specific &#8216;in&#8217; crowd. </p>
<p>Hey, Erfworld, you really want to make it wacky? Make it real.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://webcomicoverlook.com/2008/08/20/the-webcomic-overlook-52-erfworld/#comment-1477</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 23:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few comics have in fact hinted that the entire world might represent some metaphor for a life-threatening illness affecting Parson in the real world, which would explain almost all of the idiosyncrasies of the game world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few comics have in fact hinted that the entire world might represent some metaphor for a life-threatening illness affecting Parson in the real world, which would explain almost all of the idiosyncrasies of the game world.</p>
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		<title>By: Irrevenant</title>
		<link>http://webcomicoverlook.com/2008/08/20/the-webcomic-overlook-52-erfworld/#comment-1228</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Irrevenant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 02:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Their tiny necks can support the weight of their huge melon-like heads because the world just works that way (tm).  They&#039;re fighting a turn-based war with units that include animate stuffed teddy bears and flying marshmallow peeps.  The size of their heads is hardly the most unusual thing about the setting.

It also contrasts nicely to the way Parson is drawn with normal human proportions (albeit obese ones).

BTW, the world is probably based on an RPG designed FOR children, not by a child.  I actually suspect it may have been partially inspired by Fuzzy Heroes (http://www.fuzzyheroes.com/catalog.php?category=Fuzzy%20Heroes).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their tiny necks can support the weight of their huge melon-like heads because the world just works that way &#8482;.  They&#8217;re fighting a turn-based war with units that include animate stuffed teddy bears and flying marshmallow peeps.  The size of their heads is hardly the most unusual thing about the setting.</p>
<p>It also contrasts nicely to the way Parson is drawn with normal human proportions (albeit obese ones).</p>
<p>BTW, the world is probably based on an RPG designed FOR children, not by a child.  I actually suspect it may have been partially inspired by Fuzzy Heroes (<a href="http://www.fuzzyheroes.com/catalog.php?category=Fuzzy%20Heroes" rel="nofollow">http://www.fuzzyheroes.com/catalog.php?category=Fuzzy%20Heroes</a>).</p>
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		<title>By: xvbones</title>
		<link>http://webcomicoverlook.com/2008/08/20/the-webcomic-overlook-52-erfworld/#comment-1110</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[xvbones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yet another dissenting opinion on the &quot;Parson is unlikeable&quot; part - I&#039;ve found him engaging to the point of being almost loveable.  He reminds me of several of my friends - brilliant in their own right and yet utterly socially retarded.  If he&#039;s a Mary Sue, he&#039;s the most believably human one I&#039;ve ever seen.

More importantly, I think you missed something with the &#039;good guys&#039;.  Ansom may appear bland, but pay attention to what he says, what his character motivation is.  There&#039;s a strong sequence where Parson gets Ansom to enter a foaming-at-the-mouth frenzy over Stanley the Tool&#039;s new title and then (Ansom) goes into a ballistic tirade that borders on fascism about how his position as a Royal makes him stronger, smarter and more suitable to rule than those of lesser social standing.

The heroes are almost uniformly presented as myopic and arrogant - they are Right purely on basis of being Right.  They&#039;re the &quot;good guys&quot; because some hitch in the laws of the universe decided that they should be.
The &#039;bad guys&#039; on the other hand are amazingly compelling, despite or BECAUSE OF the minimal time spent developing their characters. 

As for the humor, it is, and I do not often say this, especially not when dealing with a webcomic, brilliant.  There are very, very few outright jokes, all the humor comes in subtle, almost background details and all of them catering directly to nerds: &quot;Shockamancy&quot; spells are cast by invoking the internet shock images of Tubgirl, Goatse, Lemonparty and Meatspin; expendable flying units called Orlies (which are, of course, owls) occasionally shout things like OMGWTFBBQD and BRB DED when they are killed... yes it&#039;s nerdy as all-git-out, and delightfully so.

I&#039;ve been following it since the very first page was posted, and the only real problem I&#039;ve ever had with it is that it sometimes takes far too long to see a new update, which is understandable.

The comparison to Mobius in Noguchi&#039;s work is spot-on - the brilliant colors and simple forms mixed in with complex, sweeping backgrounds, I would gush here for longer, but I think it&#039;s already pretty apparent I&#039;m a slobbering fanboy already.  I grew up reading Metal Hurlant/Heavy Metal via my father&#039;s obsession with european comix - you lay high praise with that comparison, and it is deserved.  Noguchi is easily one of the finest illustrators working on a digital plane.

As for the best character in the series, sorry ladies, that&#039;s Bogroll.

WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB SCREEEEEEEEECH]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another dissenting opinion on the &#8220;Parson is unlikeable&#8221; part &#8211; I&#8217;ve found him engaging to the point of being almost loveable.  He reminds me of several of my friends &#8211; brilliant in their own right and yet utterly socially retarded.  If he&#8217;s a Mary Sue, he&#8217;s the most believably human one I&#8217;ve ever seen.</p>
<p>More importantly, I think you missed something with the &#8216;good guys&#8217;.  Ansom may appear bland, but pay attention to what he says, what his character motivation is.  There&#8217;s a strong sequence where Parson gets Ansom to enter a foaming-at-the-mouth frenzy over Stanley the Tool&#8217;s new title and then (Ansom) goes into a ballistic tirade that borders on fascism about how his position as a Royal makes him stronger, smarter and more suitable to rule than those of lesser social standing.</p>
<p>The heroes are almost uniformly presented as myopic and arrogant &#8211; they are Right purely on basis of being Right.  They&#8217;re the &#8220;good guys&#8221; because some hitch in the laws of the universe decided that they should be.<br />
The &#8216;bad guys&#8217; on the other hand are amazingly compelling, despite or BECAUSE OF the minimal time spent developing their characters. </p>
<p>As for the humor, it is, and I do not often say this, especially not when dealing with a webcomic, brilliant.  There are very, very few outright jokes, all the humor comes in subtle, almost background details and all of them catering directly to nerds: &#8220;Shockamancy&#8221; spells are cast by invoking the internet shock images of Tubgirl, Goatse, Lemonparty and Meatspin; expendable flying units called Orlies (which are, of course, owls) occasionally shout things like OMGWTFBBQD and BRB DED when they are killed&#8230; yes it&#8217;s nerdy as all-git-out, and delightfully so.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been following it since the very first page was posted, and the only real problem I&#8217;ve ever had with it is that it sometimes takes far too long to see a new update, which is understandable.</p>
<p>The comparison to Mobius in Noguchi&#8217;s work is spot-on &#8211; the brilliant colors and simple forms mixed in with complex, sweeping backgrounds, I would gush here for longer, but I think it&#8217;s already pretty apparent I&#8217;m a slobbering fanboy already.  I grew up reading Metal Hurlant/Heavy Metal via my father&#8217;s obsession with european comix &#8211; you lay high praise with that comparison, and it is deserved.  Noguchi is easily one of the finest illustrators working on a digital plane.</p>
<p>As for the best character in the series, sorry ladies, that&#8217;s Bogroll.</p>
<p>WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB SCREEEEEEEEECH</p>
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		<title>By: Peregrine</title>
		<link>http://webcomicoverlook.com/2008/08/20/the-webcomic-overlook-52-erfworld/#comment-948</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peregrine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 06:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmmm, I don&#039;t think Parson is unlikable, and neither is he a bland character. Sure the premise of his predicament isn&#039;t all that original, but he is put in a situation, and he reacts in believable ways. His though provoking klog is one example, where he debates on whether he is on the right side.

For the most part, I agree with what u say about the heroes, except that I do believe they are made stereotypical on purpose. I certainly don&#039;t tune out to their story, as most of the alliances are here, whereas Parson and Stanley are isolated, the interaction between the different nations is a large part of what makes the story interesting. Only recently has Parson begun to interact with Charlie, and Ansom. I must agree w/tris though, Vinny is one of my fav characters in Erfworld.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, I don&#8217;t think Parson is unlikable, and neither is he a bland character. Sure the premise of his predicament isn&#8217;t all that original, but he is put in a situation, and he reacts in believable ways. His though provoking klog is one example, where he debates on whether he is on the right side.</p>
<p>For the most part, I agree with what u say about the heroes, except that I do believe they are made stereotypical on purpose. I certainly don&#8217;t tune out to their story, as most of the alliances are here, whereas Parson and Stanley are isolated, the interaction between the different nations is a large part of what makes the story interesting. Only recently has Parson begun to interact with Charlie, and Ansom. I must agree w/tris though, Vinny is one of my fav characters in Erfworld.</p>
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		<title>By: El Santo</title>
		<link>http://webcomicoverlook.com/2008/08/20/the-webcomic-overlook-52-erfworld/#comment-936</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[El Santo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heh!  I guess you&#039;ve got a point that Parson is the sort of geek you always find in a comic shop.  I guess my point is that he&#039;s the sort of geek that most people --- even someone even as geeky as I, a person writing a webcomics blog --- would tend to avoid with a 20 foot radius because the smell of Hot Pockets is too overpowering.  

The sort of person I don&#039;t want to really engage in conversation because I just want to get my latest Captain America, and I don&#039;t want to be trapped in a pointless 30-minute rant about Jeph Loeb or Joe Quesada.

Wearing a &quot;Magneto was right&quot; shirt.

The geek&#039;s geek.   

I concede that there are people who can identify with him ... not necessarily the entire package, but aspects his nerd obsessive traits.  But I don&#039;t think he becomes likable until the circumstances of Erfworld force him in a fish-out-of-water situation and cause him to finally value other people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh!  I guess you&#8217;ve got a point that Parson is the sort of geek you always find in a comic shop.  I guess my point is that he&#8217;s the sort of geek that most people &#8212; even someone even as geeky as I, a person writing a webcomics blog &#8212; would tend to avoid with a 20 foot radius because the smell of Hot Pockets is too overpowering.  </p>
<p>The sort of person I don&#8217;t want to really engage in conversation because I just want to get my latest Captain America, and I don&#8217;t want to be trapped in a pointless 30-minute rant about Jeph Loeb or Joe Quesada.</p>
<p>Wearing a &#8220;Magneto was right&#8221; shirt.</p>
<p>The geek&#8217;s geek.   </p>
<p>I concede that there are people who can identify with him &#8230; not necessarily the entire package, but aspects his nerd obsessive traits.  But I don&#8217;t think he becomes likable until the circumstances of Erfworld force him in a fish-out-of-water situation and cause him to finally value other people.</p>
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		<title>By: Gratcat</title>
		<link>http://webcomicoverlook.com/2008/08/20/the-webcomic-overlook-52-erfworld/#comment-933</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gratcat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First off, let me disagree with your interpretation of Parson. Yes, he&#039;s a fat, unhygenic dork, but he&#039;s that fat unhygenic dork we all know and have played a few hands of Fluxx with (replace that with MTG, Yu Gi Oh, Warhammer, or Pokemon if that&#039;s your bag). Go into any comic/game/hobby shop in the USA, and you&#039;ll find a Parson among the regulars. Possibly more than one.  For that quality, he becomes a sort of everyman, or everygeek, rather.

Beyond that, this review is dead on the money. I&#039;ve been reading since day one, and the only issues I have with the comic are the bland &quot;hero&quot; types (something that&#039;s improved a bit over time, but not by too much) and the irregular update schedule. Granted, the latter is the bane of webcomics in general, but the former needs some work. Unless of course it&#039;s a commentary on how heroes in these stories are typically bland, banal things that are overshadowed by their more intriguing villianous counterparts... hmm...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, let me disagree with your interpretation of Parson. Yes, he&#8217;s a fat, unhygenic dork, but he&#8217;s that fat unhygenic dork we all know and have played a few hands of Fluxx with (replace that with MTG, Yu Gi Oh, Warhammer, or Pokemon if that&#8217;s your bag). Go into any comic/game/hobby shop in the USA, and you&#8217;ll find a Parson among the regulars. Possibly more than one.  For that quality, he becomes a sort of everyman, or everygeek, rather.</p>
<p>Beyond that, this review is dead on the money. I&#8217;ve been reading since day one, and the only issues I have with the comic are the bland &#8220;hero&#8221; types (something that&#8217;s improved a bit over time, but not by too much) and the irregular update schedule. Granted, the latter is the bane of webcomics in general, but the former needs some work. Unless of course it&#8217;s a commentary on how heroes in these stories are typically bland, banal things that are overshadowed by their more intriguing villianous counterparts&#8230; hmm&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tris mccall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tris mccall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i think you&#039;re absolutely wrong that parson is unlikeable.  he may have been a little gross at the very beginning, but even then, he&#039;s humanized by the other gamers&#039; comments about him.  he&#039;s a smart guy who&#039;s been handed a rough deal, in a world (our world) where he doesn&#039;t fit in comfortably.  once he gets to erfworld, he shows real compassion for the people around him -- even stanley, who doesn&#039;t exactly deserve it. and we like him because he&#039;s in a tough spot, working against the odds, and he&#039;s already shown he can outsmart ansom.  

i can understand calling ansom one-dimensional, even though that&#039;s not really true.  but if you&#039;re tuning out the rest of his coalition, you&#039;re missing vinnie doombats, who has been one of the highlights of the strip so far.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think you&#8217;re absolutely wrong that parson is unlikeable.  he may have been a little gross at the very beginning, but even then, he&#8217;s humanized by the other gamers&#8217; comments about him.  he&#8217;s a smart guy who&#8217;s been handed a rough deal, in a world (our world) where he doesn&#8217;t fit in comfortably.  once he gets to erfworld, he shows real compassion for the people around him &#8212; even stanley, who doesn&#8217;t exactly deserve it. and we like him because he&#8217;s in a tough spot, working against the odds, and he&#8217;s already shown he can outsmart ansom.  </p>
<p>i can understand calling ansom one-dimensional, even though that&#8217;s not really true.  but if you&#8217;re tuning out the rest of his coalition, you&#8217;re missing vinnie doombats, who has been one of the highlights of the strip so far.</p>
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