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	<title>Comments on: The Webcomic Overlook #37: Subnormality</title>
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		<title>By: Wizardy</title>
		<link>http://webcomicoverlook.com/2008/03/13/the-webcomic-overlook-37-subnormality/#comment-13897</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wizardy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh My God I beg you, keep it up. There are exactly TWO things in my 45+ long RSS Google Reader list that i spend more then a minute or two reading. One of them is Erfworld, mostly because of it&#039;s text updates, and the other is Subnormality. Yes, your comic does take a lot of time to get through, but I love every second of it and that&#039;s exactly why i keep coming back. It&#039;s something different, a short(or long more-so) distraction from the daily &quot;go through 40 daily strip updates, giggle, get to work&quot; routine. Please don&#039;t change that! I can&#039;t produce that amount of words myself! (not in english anyway)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh My God I beg you, keep it up. There are exactly TWO things in my 45+ long RSS Google Reader list that i spend more then a minute or two reading. One of them is Erfworld, mostly because of it&#8217;s text updates, and the other is Subnormality. Yes, your comic does take a lot of time to get through, but I love every second of it and that&#8217;s exactly why i keep coming back. It&#8217;s something different, a short(or long more-so) distraction from the daily &#8220;go through 40 daily strip updates, giggle, get to work&#8221; routine. Please don&#8217;t change that! I can&#8217;t produce that amount of words myself! (not in english anyway)</p>
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		<title>By: SRA</title>
		<link>http://webcomicoverlook.com/2008/03/13/the-webcomic-overlook-37-subnormality/#comment-13066</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SRA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 01:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s like the War and Peace of webcomics: a great story hidden behind a wall that some (unfortunate ones) are unwilling to surmount.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s like the War and Peace of webcomics: a great story hidden behind a wall that some (unfortunate ones) are unwilling to surmount.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy</title>
		<link>http://webcomicoverlook.com/2008/03/13/the-webcomic-overlook-37-subnormality/#comment-8639</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 13:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I speak for every person of my kind on their behalf, &quot;DON&#039;T ever STOP producing wordy works of art!!!&quot; your wordy one off strips are the best and to be honest, sometimes I just don&#039;t want them to end!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I speak for every person of my kind on their behalf, &#8220;DON&#8217;T ever STOP producing wordy works of art!!!&#8221; your wordy one off strips are the best and to be honest, sometimes I just don&#8217;t want them to end!</p>
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		<title>By: Esn</title>
		<link>http://webcomicoverlook.com/2008/03/13/the-webcomic-overlook-37-subnormality/#comment-8576</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Esn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 04:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Subnormality is far more reliant on dialogue than Achewood&quot;

Well, there&#039;s no way I can agree with that. Achewood&#039;s art style is not very evocative (I really want to say &quot;not very good&quot;), and you wouldn&#039;t be able to tell what&#039;s going on at all if not for the words. Even with those, there seem to be so many in-jokes and references to things I don&#039;t know about that I have a hard time following it. While it is indeed less wordy, the words that are there seem chosen less carefully to me.

On the other hand, though Subnormality is often very wordy, it explains itself better (relies less on obscure references), and the artwork provides an integral part of the message, sometimes by far the dominant part (as in the two strips I linked).

Very often, the two are linked intimately, as in this strip where the reader&#039;s expectations are subverted not once but twice, entirely due to visual techniques:
http://www.viruscomix.com/page529.html

I don&#039;t care about how hot the girls are drawn one way or the other, as that&#039;s not what the strip is about (the fact that you focused on that as one of the main positives is revealing - thanks for that, since it lets readers know if they&#039;re likely to agree with your take or not). I think it is about humanity, about people, about slowing down and taking the time to listen to them with the sort of intimacy that is not often found in comics. And it&#039;s not always going to funny. Often, I feel like Subnormality is as concise as it CAN be for what the author wants to show, as those tend to not be things that can be shown in three panels.

We can agree that novels also have a right to existence, alongside haikus? Traditional 3-panel comics are like haikus. Subnormality is often more like a novel.

Anyway, I just wanted to say where I&#039;m coming from. Of course I agree with &quot;different strokes for different folks&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Subnormality is far more reliant on dialogue than Achewood&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, there&#8217;s no way I can agree with that. Achewood&#8217;s art style is not very evocative (I really want to say &#8220;not very good&#8221;), and you wouldn&#8217;t be able to tell what&#8217;s going on at all if not for the words. Even with those, there seem to be so many in-jokes and references to things I don&#8217;t know about that I have a hard time following it. While it is indeed less wordy, the words that are there seem chosen less carefully to me.</p>
<p>On the other hand, though Subnormality is often very wordy, it explains itself better (relies less on obscure references), and the artwork provides an integral part of the message, sometimes by far the dominant part (as in the two strips I linked).</p>
<p>Very often, the two are linked intimately, as in this strip where the reader&#8217;s expectations are subverted not once but twice, entirely due to visual techniques:<br />
<a href="http://www.viruscomix.com/page529.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.viruscomix.com/page529.html</a></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care about how hot the girls are drawn one way or the other, as that&#8217;s not what the strip is about (the fact that you focused on that as one of the main positives is revealing &#8211; thanks for that, since it lets readers know if they&#8217;re likely to agree with your take or not). I think it is about humanity, about people, about slowing down and taking the time to listen to them with the sort of intimacy that is not often found in comics. And it&#8217;s not always going to funny. Often, I feel like Subnormality is as concise as it CAN be for what the author wants to show, as those tend to not be things that can be shown in three panels.</p>
<p>We can agree that novels also have a right to existence, alongside haikus? Traditional 3-panel comics are like haikus. Subnormality is often more like a novel.</p>
<p>Anyway, I just wanted to say where I&#8217;m coming from. Of course I agree with &#8220;different strokes for different folks&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: El Santo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[El Santo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 17:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.  I&#039;m totally fine if you find Subnormality better than Achewood; everyone has different expectations.  However, I will say this: Subnormality is far more reliant on dialogue than Achewood.  In fact, that&#039;s what its most known for, even amongst its fans.  I understand that there are some entries with no words, but those are typically the exception rather than the rule.  When put side by side with Achewood, Achewood is an order of magnitude less wordy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.  I&#8217;m totally fine if you find Subnormality better than Achewood; everyone has different expectations.  However, I will say this: Subnormality is far more reliant on dialogue than Achewood.  In fact, that&#8217;s what its most known for, even amongst its fans.  I understand that there are some entries with no words, but those are typically the exception rather than the rule.  When put side by side with Achewood, Achewood is an order of magnitude less wordy.</p>
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		<title>By: Esn</title>
		<link>http://webcomicoverlook.com/2008/03/13/the-webcomic-overlook-37-subnormality/#comment-8566</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Esn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 13:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I think you are completely off-the-mark on this one. This is one of the few comics that I think deserve 5 stars, or 4.5 at least. Every single strip seems to aim at setting a new standard of over-the-top excellence, and the surprise is that it usually succeeds.

The criticism about &quot;too many words&quot; is also a little strange to me, as you also gave Achewood 5 stars, and the dialogue in that can hardly be accused of brevity; rather the opposite.

There are also many entries where there are almost no words at all... i.e.
http://viruscomix.com/page488.html
http://www.viruscomix.com/page537.html

&quot;For a humor strip, Subnormality is rarely laugh-out-loud funny. It is, however, frequently clever.&quot;

You forgot to mention moving, thoughtful and profound.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I think you are completely off-the-mark on this one. This is one of the few comics that I think deserve 5 stars, or 4.5 at least. Every single strip seems to aim at setting a new standard of over-the-top excellence, and the surprise is that it usually succeeds.</p>
<p>The criticism about &#8220;too many words&#8221; is also a little strange to me, as you also gave Achewood 5 stars, and the dialogue in that can hardly be accused of brevity; rather the opposite.</p>
<p>There are also many entries where there are almost no words at all&#8230; i.e.<br />
<a href="http://viruscomix.com/page488.html" rel="nofollow">http://viruscomix.com/page488.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.viruscomix.com/page537.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.viruscomix.com/page537.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;For a humor strip, Subnormality is rarely laugh-out-loud funny. It is, however, frequently clever.&#8221;</p>
<p>You forgot to mention moving, thoughtful and profound.</p>
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		<title>By: Piet</title>
		<link>http://webcomicoverlook.com/2008/03/13/the-webcomic-overlook-37-subnormality/#comment-4936</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Piet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;If the comic doesn’t substantially grow in popularity in the next year or two, then I’ll know that My Thing ain’t no good and I’ll resignedly pursue other avenues. Stay tuned!&lt;/b&gt;

So, how did this work out?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>If the comic doesn’t substantially grow in popularity in the next year or two, then I’ll know that My Thing ain’t no good and I’ll resignedly pursue other avenues. Stay tuned!</b></p>
<p>So, how did this work out?</p>
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		<title>By: Old Prof. Otter</title>
		<link>http://webcomicoverlook.com/2008/03/13/the-webcomic-overlook-37-subnormality/#comment-4925</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Prof. Otter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 16:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Subnormality is a bit uneven, but the highs are wonderful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Subnormality is a bit uneven, but the highs are wonderful.</p>
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		<title>By: Happy Canada Day! &#171; The Webcomic Overlook</title>
		<link>http://webcomicoverlook.com/2008/03/13/the-webcomic-overlook-37-subnormality/#comment-1952</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Happy Canada Day! &#171; The Webcomic Overlook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Review: Subnormality &#171; Virus Comix News</title>
		<link>http://webcomicoverlook.com/2008/03/13/the-webcomic-overlook-37-subnormality/#comment-453</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Review: Subnormality &#171; Virus Comix News]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] March 14, 2008   You can go here to read a new review of Subnormality by Larry &#8220;El Santo&#8221; Cruz. He&#8217;s an [...]]]></description>
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